Night 1!, who to kill?
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:11 PM
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It's looking like Coffee Ninja is getting lynched, unless some quick last half-hour shenanigans happen. Seems like the best course of action is we just let this happen, without adding anything to the topic. This is what we've got for the Night.

Townies left to target (14):
1. AsurasKordoth
2. baubeta
4. Cyclo
7. GameBopAdv
9. lefty
11. MrSmartGuy
12. MZero
14. Not Dave
15. potatoesaretubers
17. Sir Chris
19. SunnyX
20. The Raven 2
21. ToadYoshi
22. WVI

Us (7):
Menji (Godfather)
Forceful Dragon (Roleblocker)
Jack White
SSBM_Guy
Ngamer
Redtooth
Fett

Dead (1):
3. Coffee Ninja


Anyone have any idea who might be a doc/cop? We should hit those first, obviously, so any intuition on that would be favorable. If we don't know, anyone have suggestions on who to hit? I'd think someone who's talked a lot and might know what they're doing, but not necessarily anyone who's spoken against us. SunnyX, ToadYoshi, AsurasKordoth all fit that particular bill.

Other than that, we need to figure out who's "sending in the kills" to bellis. We should also discuss who our roleblocker (FD), should role block tonight. Kind of a shot in the dark, I feel, but unless the usage is limited, there doesn't seem to be a reason not to.
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:55 PM
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Doctor will probably save Merc. I want to keep all suspicious people and inactives in. Don't really want to kill anyone that voted against any of us. I think Sir Chris would be a fair bet.
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:59 PM
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Sir Chris sounds like a good pick to me. Anyone else around?
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:11 PM
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Sounds fine. I'm trying to pick this game up as I go and that looks smart.
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:23 PM
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I think that we ought to always look at the lynch count before making a decision on our night kill. So with that in mind, here is how it went:

Not Dave (1): baubeta
baubeta (1): The Raven 2
Jack White (1): WVI
WVI (2): Redtooth, tubers
Coffee Ninja (8): AsurasKordoth, Menji, GameBopAdv, Sir Chris, SunnyX, SSBM, lefty, Jack White
AsurasKordoth (1): Coffee Ninja
Sir Chris (1): Cyclo
SSBM (1): ToadYoshi
MZero (1): MrSmartGuy
Ngamer (1): Not Dave
ToadYoshi (1): Fett
MrSmartGuy (1): Ngamer
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Naturally, now that it's known Cninja was a towner, the townies are going to suspect that most of those 8 voters who bandwagoned to get him out of the game are scum. This is great, because in reality we did a good job of spreading our votes, so only Menji/SSMB/Jack get implicated that way.

With that in mind, I think we should lay off on killing Kordoth, GameBop, Chris, Sunny, or lefty. We can subtly float the idea that the Cninja voters were in on it together, and then the townies will be jumping to lynch one of them, and be suspicious of all the rest.

Now, if we were to kill Not Dave, that would cast some serious suspicion on me. The Townies would assume Dave had been on to something and that I must have been a top-ranking scum, so we acted to eliminate the problem ASAP. Right? So how about if instead we were to kill someone who sent in a strong vote against a fellow townie- then we've got one down, and another with some serious doubt cast on himself.

With that in mind, I nominate we kill Cyclo. Everyone will assume it means Sir Chris is important, and with that added to the fact that he joined the Cninja mantrain without hesitation, he'll be as good as lynched.

As for the roleblock, I don't think we have enough info to have any kind of guess as to Cops and Doctors, so let's just block someone who seems to have an idea what they're doing. Merc aka Kordoth seems as good a choice as any.
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:29 PM
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So do all the scum just vote on who to kill? I was looking up rules and the Godfather sometimes gets an extra kill, but I wasn't told I could do that... so...
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:32 PM
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I think we each get to have a say, but that in the end you're the one that makes the final decision, since you're the Godfather.
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:34 PM
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Menji, just check your initial email. That should outline the difference in my game between the Godfather and a regular Mafia Goon.

It is also not necessary for the Godfather to have the final say.

Kill received!
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:42 PM
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...Who sent the kill. >_________> I was hoping to kill Chris, but now, Cyclo is a good kill, too. Though, that kills one of the joke voters.

Also, I can agree with roleblocking Merc.
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Posted: Jul 26 2008, 12:08 AM
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Hooray, we're totally owning!
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uhhh wow @ WVI.
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 Night 2!, Whom must we kill?
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 02:11 AM
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Current status

Townies left to target (12):
1. AsurasKordoth
2. baubeta
7. GameBopAdv
11. MrSmartGuy
12. kanoshi
14. Not Dave
15. potatoesaretubers
17. Sir Chris
19. SunnyX
20. The Raven 2
21. ToadYoshi
22. WVI

Us (6):
Menji (Godfather)
Jack White
SSBM_Guy
Ngamer
Redtooth
Fett

Dead (4):
3. Coffee Ninja - Townie
4. Cyclo - Townie blocker
Forceful Dragon - Mafia blocker
9. lefty - Townie
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Yesterday's Voting

Sir Chris (3): Ngamer, baubeta, tubers
baubeta (3): Redtooth, Jack White
lefty (5): Menji, ToadYoshi, Sir Chris, Not Dave, kaon
Jack White (2): Fett, MrSmartGuy
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Role Info

- Dave more or less came out and admitted he's the Town Cop in a last-ditch effort to save Chris from the lynch
- Chris spent much of the day begging the Town Doc to save him on account of what a great player he is, and how badly the town needs him. But after ND came out of the closet as a cop, he switched and told the Doc to save ND tonight.
- Chris also gave suggestions for who the Town Vig should kill tonight.
- Smarty made some kind of comment suggesting who the Doc should save.

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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 02:36 AM
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Here's my take...

ND and Chris look awful right now. As in, really awful. Dave mantrained Ninja out the first day, and was wrong. Chris voted Cyclo out the first day, and was wrong. They both ganged up on baubeta and nearly had him dead in the water before Ed more or less came along and confirmed his Town status. After that they both went in together to gang up on left and vote him out... and were AGAIN wrong. In the meantime Chris' alpha male posing drew heat, and he was on the verge of elimination before Dave made a desperate save by reveling his Cop status to protect him.

Just imagine how bad this is going to look to the Town. I say, let both of them live- after the way they painted targets on their back today, it's going to make them look incredibly suspicious for the mafia to not even take a swing at them. Plus, there's a 50/50 change that the one we pick will be saved by the doctor, and ruin our choice. PLUS, the town is so upset with them right now that I wouldn't put it past the Vig to knock one of them off for us.

So my advice is to just knock off some random townie, in the hopes of hitting the Doc. That leaves us with...

2. baubeta - leave him, he's harmless enough and is out to get Chris now
7. GameBopAdv - already being accused by Chris, will want to take him down
11. MrSmartGuy - can't kill him, it would make Jack look bad
12. kanoshi - doubtfully a powerful role, seeing as he was just brought into the game
15. potatoesaretubers - leave him, he already suspects Chris and Dave
21. ToadYoshi - will look bad for voting out lefty; leave him be

Sooooo, dropping any of these 4 would be our best choice IMO.

1. AsurasKordoth
22. WVI
19. SunnyX
20. The Raven 2
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 02:54 AM
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After looking through the last day of posts, I'm recommending a kill of WVI. There were some questions about him Day 1, but after his major noobish messup last night no one is taking him too seriously and he's basically cleared himself of mafia suspicion. Plus, he voted for Redtooth, but no one's going to remember that because his vote was never counted (Ed refused to tally it since it was cast before the Day started). So we get a free kill that won't implicate any of us while still keeping Dave and Chris looking shady, while taking a shot in the dark at knocking out the Doc.

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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 03:04 AM
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Alright, nobody send in the kill until most of us decided. Don't send it at the last minute, though. We might forget and we'll miss our chance. I was not ready to kill Cyclo, but...that went surprisingly well. VERY well. Killing Chris or Dave is suicide. However, if Dave lives to Night 3, kill him. He looks to have a good role and I don't want him lingering around for too long. Chances are, Chris or Dave will die Night 2 or Day 3. They will be revealed as Town and suspicions would be cleared. So, if Dave is still alive by Night 3, I want him dead.

...However, this is Night 2. Merc, WVI, Sunny, and Raven? Keep Raven alive, some people suspect him. Merc...Merc's a possible good choice, but I prefer him alive. WVI is a good choice, but personally, I prefer Sunny.
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 03:11 AM
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After reading all that, I'm leaning towards WVI. He's one of the few that knows what he's doing and yet it wouldn't be all that suspicious if he was taken out. I doubt the doc will be saving him.
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 04:55 AM
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I came here with the idea of lynching Sunny, since he's unassuming and hopefully a doc, or the actual cop if ND is some sort of 'special' cop. But either WVI or ND work for me. It seems WVI isn't done hounding me, for whatever reason, but it's very unlikely anyone will care.

Regardless, ND's role sounds...interesting. Special role inspired by B8, anyone have any clues to something like that who isn't a cop? He very well could be a regular cop too, just trying to hide it, but it's worth thinking about.

And, he and Sir Chris do look pretty bad right now. Hopefully no one comes out with a claim against any of us, and we should have a good amount of options. Either we follow with Chris on gamebop, further drawing him into a hole. Or just try to out Chris/ND themselves.
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 06:04 AM
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Yeah, I'd be fine with either WVI or Sunny, either way.

I agree, let's continue allowing Chris and ND to dig their own grave if they gang up on another townie tomorrow. If on the other hand the town rises up against them tomorrow, let's kind of sit back and let it happen, maybe push in a vote or two to tip the scales if need be.

Of course once one of them gets hung, the other is going to suddenly be smelling like a rose, so we'll have to use the night afterwards to bump him off. Hopefully we'll have the Doc killed by then so they won't be able to stop us...
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 04:06 PM
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I'm fine with Sunny or WVI.

I just hope that SmartGuy isn't the vigilante or I'm screwed. =P
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 05:41 PM
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After looking things over again, I'm solid in my decision to knock out WVI. Nothing wrong with Sunny, but the last thing he said yesterday was suspecting of Chris and ND, plus he's doing a better job of playing the game so it should be more fun to keep him around, whereas WVI is just kind of clueless.

I'll send in the kill unless I hear an objection in this topic in the next hour or so.
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 06:10 PM
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Good by me, let's just hope no one looks into it too much.

That, and I'm just curious what timezone this board is in. >_>
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 08:02 PM
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I forgot I was scum, oops.

Jack, you exude scuminess.
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Posted: Jul 29 2008, 10:35 PM
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why thank you xD
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Posted: Jul 30 2008, 02:23 AM
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Dang it Fett, get your head in the game!
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Hey, I got confused with my role in the other game.

Anyways, I think I did a good job of looking townish.
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:09 AM
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...and business is good.

Let's keep discussion of tonight's kill in this topic.
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Current status

Townies left to target (9):
1. AsurasKordoth
2. baubeta
7. GameBopAdv
11. MrSmartGuy
12. kanoshi
14. Not Dave (claiming Town Jack, 1 scan used, 1 protect unused, 1 roleblock unused)
17. Sir Chris (claiming Town Vig, 2 shots both used)
19. SunnyX (claiming Town Vanilla)
20. The Raven 2

Us (6):
Menji (Godfather)
Jack White
SSBM_Guy
Ngamer
Redtooth
Fett

Dead (6):
3. Coffee Ninja - Townie (lynched)
4. Cyclo - Townie blocker (scum hit)
Forceful Dragon - Mafia blocker (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
9. lefty - Townie (lynched)
22. WVI - Townie (scum hit)
15. potatoesaretubers - Townie Cop (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
21. ToadYoshi - Townie Doc (lynched)
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Day Three Voting
SunnyX (1): Fett
GameBop (1): AsurasKordoth
SmartGuy (2): baubeta, ToadYoshi
Ngamer (1): GameBop
ToadYoshi (5): SmartGuy, Redtooth, Sir Chris, SunnyX, Not Dave
The Raven 2 (1): Menji

Day Two Voting
Sir Chris (3): Ngamer, baubeta, tubers
baubeta (3): Redtooth, Jack White
lefty (5): Menji, ToadYoshi, Sir Chris, Not Dave, kaon
Jack White (2): Fett, MrSmartGuy

Day One Voting
Not Dave (1): baubeta
baubeta (1): The Raven 2
Jack White (1): WVI
WVI (2): Redtooth, tubers
Coffee Ninja (8): AsurasKordoth, Menji, GameBopAdv, Sir Chris, SunnyX, SSBM, lefty, Jack White
AsurasKordoth (1): Coffee Ninja
Sir Chris (1): Cyclo
SSBM (1): ToadYoshi
MZero (1): MrSmartGuy
Ngamer (1): Not Dave
ToadYoshi (1): Fett
MrSmartGuy (1): Ngamer
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:11 AM
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In the interests of keeping everything in this topic, Toothy said

Toothy: Killed the Doc!

Well, this is looking good. I'd almost go with killing ND and ridding us of his jack crap, but it's looking like he'll roleblock you, Ngamer. If you send in the kill and get roleblock, it doesn't go through, correct? If possible, we should have someone else send it in, no?

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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:15 AM
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Ha, was about to repost it here too. So yea, besides the possible RB on you Ngamer, I'm still weary that he or Chris may have another kill. Especially the way Chris is acting, it sounds like he wants ND to RB and SC, if he has a 3rd kill, will be using it. Hard to say the targets, but both have been pointing fingers at you. Regardless, we're doing well for now!
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:15 AM
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I'll send it in.


....cause can't someone else do it?
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:19 AM
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First of all... I knew asking for those roleclaims was super-scummy, but decided to go ahead with it because I knew Smarty was around and with his inexperience at Mafia would possibly go ahead with it. Then when it looked like that ploy was a clear failure, I baited Toad out of the shadows with my whole wash the hands bit... I can't believe it worked first of all, and I REALLY can't believe we hit the jackpot and nailed Doc!

Regarding toothy... I agree, I look awful right now, so once we reach a decision we should have someone else send in tonight's kill, as there's a good chance ND will waste his roleblock on me.

Now, as for who we should kill. I say we struck gold with that Doc lynch, and that now is the time to go for the jugular- let's kill Chris and leave the the Townies way down in the odds, confused, and leaderless. Dave will still be around, true, but he's going to have wasted two of his three abilities and be down to only an RB or protect, neither of which should frighten us.

Also I think there's a distinct possibility that Chris has well more than those 2 Vig shots- if so, all the more reason to let his head roll.

EDIT - Yeah Menji, let's put you in charge of mailing in the kill tonight. You're not suspected too much if at all at this point.
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:23 AM
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Sounds good, they don't suspect me of anything. I'll wait a bit for other possibilities, but I like the Chris kill. Can we be sure ND will save himself and not Chris?
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Ahahahaha. XD I can't believe we got the Doc. Alright, I was away for almost the entire day, so I'll check up on the posts. With Doc gone, Chris is a sure bet to kill.
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:25 AM
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I... agree. Before the day ended I was going to suggest avoding Chris (Doc should be protecting him) and TR2 (easy to place suspicion on). But... wow, we really did get the best possible result with lynching the doc.

Chris actually told ND to roleblock tonight, so as long as he sticks to that we have a good chance of pulling this off.
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Regarding upcoming play... I'm 90% sure I signed my death warrant with that roleclaim request. If I'm not capped by Chris or the other (possible) Vig tonight, it seems a near-certainty that I get lynched tomorrow. So at the very start of the day tomorrow I'm going to cast a well-reasoned vote for Fett. After I flip scum, Fett will come out smelling like roses and can assume the leadership position for our group, since he'll appear very trustworthy.

Also, please abandon ship on me once I start taking water, guys. If I get a couple early votes, don't hesitate to accuse me and add your vote to my train as well. Hopefully a townie or two will vote something else and come out of the day looking suspicious once I flip.
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Yeah, the discussion in the topic was between roleblocking someone (most likely me, though I could see them going for Smarty possibly as well) or Dave protecting himself (since he thinks he's the most important, being the only power role still standing).

That being said, there's still a definite chance that he goes ahead and saves Chris. If so, oh well, he'll have used up his last protect and we'll be safe to cap Chris tomorrow night. Worst case for us Chris is saved and I get lynched tomorrow- that still would turn into a nice 8-5 advantage once we knock off SC the next night.
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Posted: Aug 1 2008, 03:37 AM
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What's the "business is good" quote from? It sounds so familiar.
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Hmm well I've never listened to them... and I know I've heard it before. Someone must have made some parody.
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hmm, I'm game for either SC or ND, to tell you the truth. SC probably still has a kill left, but he'll use it tonight. Though I'm a little worried he's just baiting us to kill him, it certainly sounds like it from his posts, doesn't it? And there could still be another power role left, like bodyguard, in the town. That'd be pushing it a bit, since we only got 1 role on our side, but nothing is impossible.

Regardless, Menji will send in the kill tonight(tomorrow?). When SC flips town, ND will look really good however, we'll have to watch out, he might be able to lead the town against us. Especially for Ngamer, that doesn't look good. Hopefully, we can get a rally of some sort on someone else, but yea, we shouldn't be afraid to jump onto Ngamer if nothing else can be done. Without SC though, ND might be the only one. Let's just be ready, right at the last minute, to vote-rush someone if need be. If we can get something on TR2, or even get him modkill, that could be enough.
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Should I send in the kill for SC now, or should I wait?
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Wait, of course, till everyone checks in.

I am barely concerned with ND. His RB will miss. His protect will miss. We need either chris or merc dead.


Menji does NOTHING!!! If there's tracker or watcher, and another cop, we don't want him to look bad.

Either Jack or NGamer or Me should send.
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I'm afraid that ND will protect Chris now.
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No way. Menji shouldn't send. fett, Jack White, and Ngamer might get roleblocked or be watched. Someone else should do it. Me or Redtooth. Probably me.
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Well dang it, somebody better send!

Anyways, Ngirl was just killed off in the other game, and she was a Townie Bodyguard. It's entirely possible that Ed put in different town roles for each game... but again it's possible that he didn't. So yes, it could be that ND protects himself and Smarty or someone bodyguards Chris, but again, we've got a perfect opportunity here to really mess the Town up badly, and I think it's worth the risk to take it.
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If for some reason that my kill didn't get sent to Ed, I would suggest Menji to do the kill, then.
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You've already sent?

Jack roles don't tend to be able to protect themselves.
Same as doc.


ND is gonna protect Chris I think. I expect fail kill.
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Menji, send in a kill of Chris as well, just to be sure we get it.

Fett, that's entirely possible, but Chris himself was telling ND to block instead of protect, so even if his "protect myself" talk was a bluff, we'd still have a chance to nail him.

And like I've been saying, yes it's a risk, but this is too good an opportunity to swing the power in our favor for us to pass by.
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Menji should send a message to Ed saying that SSBM sends the kill.

Don't assume that ND will do what Chris says.

Although, Chris needs to die. Decisions.
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Sent.
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Looks like we got him. Most excellent.
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Current status

Townies left to target (7):
1. AsurasKordoth
2. baubeta
7. GameBopAdv
11. MrSmartGuy
12. kanoshi
14. Not Dave (claiming Town Jack, 1 scan used, 1 protect unused, 1 roleblock used)
19. SunnyX (claiming Town Vanilla)


Us (6):
Menji (Godfather)
Jack White
SSBM_Guy
Ngamer
Redtooth
Fett

Dead (9):
3. Coffee Ninja - Townie (lynched)
4. Cyclo - Townie blocker (scum hit)
Forceful Dragon - Mafia blocker (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
9. lefty - Townie (lynched)
22. WVI - Townie (scum hit)
15. potatoesaretubers - Townie Cop (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
21. ToadYoshi - Townie Doc (lynched)
17. Sir Chris - Town Vig (scum hit)
20. The Raven 2 - Townie (lynched)

I think Baubeta is or merc is our best choice tonight.

If ND has a kill and kills NGamer, then we can push for his lynch tomorrow, for lying.
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I'm pretty sure we just won the game. I'd suggest we kill baubeta. Nobody expects him. Merc is still pretty scummy, if we somehow don't win by tomorrow.
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Day Four Voting
Ngamer (4): Bop, SSBM, SmartGuy, ND
The Raven 2 (5): Fett, Menji, Merc, Jack White, baubeta
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Hooray for us! Holy crap, we're going to win this game 9 kills to 1, despite having our one and only power role capped opening night. Surely that's some kind of world record... for awesomeness.

Okay, yesterday I suggested a kill of kanoshi or baubeta, as they were the two towners most laying back in the weeds and least likely to be saved. But with voting falling out the way it did today, I think Dave's going to have reason to suspect all of us TR2 voters, and so Merc and baubeta aren't safe choices. Therefore I give my assassination suggestion as... kanoshi.

Secondly, perhaps we should have a non-suspected person mail in the kill, just to be doubly sure? If so I would suggest that SSBM does the deed.
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Why would he protect Baubeta? Or Merc?
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SSBM should kill Merc. He's been about half as scummy as NGamer lately. Kaonashi is more likely to be saved as he wasn't on the lynch. Why not kill ND?
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Oh wait, I was thinking backwards there. Alright, disregard my earlier choice, I vote for a kill of baubeta. He's been bumbling through the topic all game, and coming in at the end to be the killing blow on Raven leaves him looking the worst of us all; there's no way Dave tries to save him.

I stick by my stance of Melee sending the vote though, and I likewise would rather not see us go after Dave himself. I know traditionally a player isn't able to protect himself, but both ND and Toad suggested they would protect themselves in the past and Ed never stood up to tell them that wouldn't be allowed, so I say don't risk it.
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Baubeta sounds good to me. Least probable to be saved.
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Hmm...wait. baubeta hammered Raven? That's pretty damn scummy. Same for Merc. I say keep them both alive...if we have to kill one of them, I prefer baubeta. Bop is also a good kill. Hell, we can probably even kill ND now.
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Lets kill baubeta.
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I agree with Ngamer. If we kill Merc or Baubeta it will look suspicious on all the other TR2 voters. We obviously pushed for that last lynch so we want them around to be suspects as well, especially baubeta who cast the deciding vote.

EDIT: Just saw that he posted again, nevermind. >____>;
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I dunno, I think Baubeta is the safest choice, since there's absolutely no way ND tries and protect him. We could try Kanoshi too, he's pretty low-profile. As long as ND doesn't outguess us, we're golden.

Then again, we do need him around tomorrow in order to have someone to throw the blame on. Eh, what a tough choice. Where <i>so close</i> guys, let's wrap it up!
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I'm fine with going for Baubeta.
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Melee, send that vote in before it's too late!

Uh, as for tomorrow... does the game even continue? And if it does, we should have no problem winning. The 6 of us can just team up on anyone, and Town will only be able to respond with 5 votes of their own, since TR2 is clearly never coming back to GameFAQs.
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isn't TR2 dead? >.>

yep, says so in the first post. definitely dead. <.<
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Oh yeah. Erm... well fine, I guess they could stalemate us for a day, but it's still delaying the inevitable- they're out of protects and we should have no trouble picking someone else off the next night.
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If we have the same # of players that they have, and they have no killing roles, then they lose.
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Sent.
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holy jesus why is this game still going on
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I don't like having to look around to see where I last posted the updated results, so from now on I'm going to keep them always up to date here at the top of this thread.

Current status

Townies left to target (6):
1. AsurasKordoth
7. GameBopAdv
11. MrSmartGuy
12. kanoshi
14. Not Dave (claiming Town Jack, 1 scan used, 1 protect unused, 1 roleblock used)
19. SunnyX (claiming Town Vanilla)

Us (6):
Menji (Godfather)
Jack White
SSBM_Guy
Ngamer
Redtooth
Fett

Dead (10):
3. Coffee Ninja - Townie (lynched)
4. Cyclo - Townie blocker (scum hit)
Forceful Dragon - Mafia blocker (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
9. lefty - Townie (lynched)
22. WVI - Townie (scum hit)
15. potatoesaretubers - Townie Cop (claimed Vig shot from Chris)
21. ToadYoshi - Townie Doc (lynched)
17. Sir Chris - Townie Vig (scum hit)
20. The Raven 2 - Townie (lynched)
2. baubeta - Townie (scum hit)
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Day Four Voting
Ngamer (4): Bop, SSBM, SmartGuy, ND
The Raven 2 (5): Fett, Menji, Merc, Jack White, baubeta

Day Three Voting
SunnyX (1): Fett
GameBop (1): AsurasKordoth
SmartGuy (2): baubeta, ToadYoshi
Ngamer (1): GameBop
ToadYoshi (5): SmartGuy, Redtooth, Sir Chris, SunnyX, Not Dave
The Raven 2 (1): Menji

Day Two Voting
Sir Chris (3): Ngamer, baubeta, tubers
baubeta (3): Redtooth, Jack White
lefty (5): Menji, ToadYoshi, Sir Chris, Not Dave, kaon
Jack White (2): Fett, MrSmartGuy

Day One Voting
Not Dave (1): baubeta
baubeta (1): The Raven 2
Jack White (1): WVI
WVI (2): Redtooth, tubers
Coffee Ninja (8): AsurasKordoth, Menji, GameBopAdv, Sir Chris, SunnyX, SSBM, lefty, Jack White
AsurasKordoth (1): Coffee Ninja
Sir Chris (1): Cyclo
SSBM (1): ToadYoshi
MZero (1): MrSmartGuy
Ngamer (1): Not Dave
ToadYoshi (1): Fett
MrSmartGuy (1): Ngamer
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awesome.
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Thanks! Actually I'd like to move discussion into this topic so we're all as well informed as possible before posting. Sooooo

Day Three
In my opinion this is the most important Day of the game. If we can ride the Chris/ND wagon to one more Townie kill, we'll only be down in the game 8 players to 6, with the Townie Cop and Blocker dead and their Vig and Jack all out of shots (assuming Chris and ND aren't lying). At that point we would basically control our own destiny- it would take insane play from the entire town to come back and beat us.

On the other hand, if we allow Chris and ND to take down one of us, suddenly it's 9 on 5 and things will be looking somewhat bleak for us.


Regarding the Chris and ND thing... it's pretty clear that once one of them flips town, the other's going to be cleared and become the well-trusted Town leader. Which means we really need to get one of them lynched- the flip will come at the end of the day, leaving us to take a chance that the Town Doc is asleep on his watch so we can night kill the other. If we're forced to night kill one of them, whichever is left is going to run wild on us the next day.

So I say we don't apply pressure on C/ND until they accuse one of us and force our hand. Otherwise let's try to get one more Town kill out of them so they look even worse tomorrow.
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Posted: Jul 31 2008, 06:42 AM
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We kill chris or merc.
Chris's damn good, and he will lynch us all. Don't be afraid to lynch our buddies, since once Chris is gone, we should be able to run free through town.


ND is not as big a threat.
ND doesn't have the experience that Chris and Merc have, and when they're dead, town should crumble.
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The thing about Chris is that doctor will most likely be always on him. I say we search around for a doctor until we kill Chris.
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That's why I said Merc.
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About 90 minutes left in Day Three, voting stands at


SunnyX (2): ToadYoshi, Fett
GameBop (1): AsurasKordoth
SmartGuy (2): Not Dave, baubeta
Jack White (1): SunnyX
ToadYoshi (3): SmartGuy, Redtooth, Sir Chris
The Raven 2 (1): Menji

EDIT - Looking good, we shouldn't need to jump into action unless there's a last minute rush on Jack, which doesn't seem likely.
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Killed the Doc!

Well, this is looking good. I'd almost go with killing ND and ridding us of his jack crap, but it's looking like he'll roleblock you, Ngamer. If you send in the kill and get roleblock, it doesn't go through, correct? If possible, we should have someone else send it in, no?
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Sir Chris is down.

Also, I'd suggest NGamer to not accuse any of our members...they might think it's scum accusing scum. <_< I'd suggest to go after any townies that are scummy...if there are any.
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But if I go after a townie, first no one will take me seriously, and second the minute I flip scum everything I said will be invalidated and the guy comes out looking doubly clean.

But you're right, I have so little credibility right now than even if I were to accuse Fett like I had been planning, there's a good chance it would only hurt both of us. Seems like I'm pretty much stuck.

So how about this... since we've been owning the Town so hard all game, we've really moved into a position of strength. There are only 8 of them left vs the 6 of us, and these days only 8 votes are required to force a lynch... So if someone could create suspicion on another townie, all we'd need is two Town votes and we'd be able to strong-arm them into an instant lynch.

It'd be a bold move, sure, but with an advantage like this we can afford to be bold. Right? RIGHT?
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I actually like it, but it's so hard to have everyone available to force a lynch.
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Hmm...shouldn't the game have ended? That means we need to get rid of the SK...
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No...
We have to tie them in player count or better.
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Yeah, we've almost got this in the bag. All we need to do is gang up and kill Raven today, and then night kill some other inactive guy who won't be protected afterwards.

Go team!
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I think noone else should vote for TR2 for now. Let townies take the middle votes.
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Son of a cracker barrel! I said it would be okay to jump on me if I turn into a sinking ship, SSBM... not to torpedo me yourself!
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Actually, that's a great move, as long as he doesn't switch unless we NEED him on a TR2 lynch.
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Merc/AK has a vote on TR2. If we can only get one more townie to vote him as well then we have a victory.
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Yea, we're getting really close to a sure-victory here. Hopefully the day-time picks up steam and some other person jumps on TR2. We've done a bang-up job so far, let's hold on out for the home stretch now!
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Hmm...I have a sneaking suspicion that Raven is our SK, if any. After all, the only kills we had all game were from us and Chris. SK is supposed to kill every night, but...look at how active TR2 is. He probably didn't send in a single kill. Hell, I doubt he even checked his role.

In other words, we have to lynch him this day and then victory will be ours.
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WTF? SK doesn't send an action it gets randomized. They MUST kill.
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Eh...I just don't think Ed Bellis would put in a game without a SK...and our Doctor is dead, so...
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Your assumption requires too much...coordination.

And besides, don't metagame.
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Looks like I'll get killed tonight... so in advance, I'm going to remind you guys that ND still has his protect left, so the smart move would be to pick off a Townie no one has suspected and that he's least likely to throw his protect to. kanoshi and baubeta seem good bets.

EDIT - Also I find it highly unlikely that there's a serial killer in this game. Ed wanted to keep it fairly basic, and an SK seems more along the lines of something you'd see in a larger game with dual mafia factions. Plus, Chris' claim to 2 shot Vig would make no sense if there was an SK in the mix as well. Actually it makes no sense regardless, since there was no kill last night.
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augh

is it really worth giving up on you, Ngamer? we're so close to being 6-6. >_<

I'll be asleep when the day ends. *hopes for the best*
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Nah, we have SSBM switch to TR2 at the last minute or so, and then we kill ND, since he shouldn't be able to save himself.
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QUOTE (SSBM_Guy @ Aug 2 2008, 11:25 PM)
Eh...I just don't think Ed Bellis would put in a game without a SK...and our Doctor is dead, so...

Hey, another reason theres no SK, is because that would be >33%, which is broken against town.
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Melee, we need you active tonight. If I'm not a lost cause at that point, you've got to pull off me and put your vote on TR2; then we should be able to boot him out.

I THINK we should be able to do this... remember that I also have a vote still to cast, so I could give that to TR2 and it should be enough to get the job done.
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We've got 5 on TR2. But don't switch unless everyone is here.
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Alright, we nailed TR2 and then took care of baubeta during the overnight, which backs the town into a Lynch or Lose situation. We can equal them in votes, but can't create a majority to force the lynch ourselves.

Seems like the safe bet would be to allow suspicion to be drawn to a townie, then pile on at the end if need be to force the lynch. Otherwise, if one of our own is in trouble, we can jump on someone else in order to save them.
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Alright, good work drawing suspicion away with those Ng votes, Menji and Melee. But we need you guys to be around tonight for the final hour, to switch over and kill Merc if need be.
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We only need 4 more on merc, no?

if 4 of you are around, jump onto that and it's game over!
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Not necessarily.

If we want, we could all pile on the NGamer lynch, and kill GameBop tonight, and lynch merc tomorrow, lol.
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It looks like the town is piling on Merc. We should split our votes between him and Ngamer. And if necessary switch at the last minute to make sure we stay ahead.
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Posted: Aug 5 2008, 09:42 PM
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Oh it looks you guys already had it planned. I can probably be on tonight, I'm not doing anything else.
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jack white
Posted: Aug 5 2008, 10:40 PM
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I should be able to be on as well.
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Ngamer
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 01:53 AM
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Thanks Jack! I think we should be safe now.

EDIT - Aw crap, Ed just extended the day another 24 hours. If we can get another vote on Merc, we should have our guys jump off me and onto him so we can put a cap on this thing.
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jack white
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 02:01 AM
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augh

we need to push for the majority while they still have 2 votes on Merc!

EDIT: crap ND just changed his vote. if GameBop switches as well then Merc is a lost cause. >_<
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Ngamer
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 02:19 AM
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We need everyone active tomorrow so they can jump on Merc if need be.

Be active everyone!
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Redtooth
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 03:00 AM
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I can't promise that, but my vote's already there. I'd switch, but since I can't monitor, it just wouldn't be safe...
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Menji
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 03:27 AM
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I'll be active as much as I can.
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SSBM_Guy
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 03:52 AM
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Menji, be on before the day ends. One of us has to switch at the end. Most likely you, since you're the more suspicious of us two.
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Ngamer
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 05:24 AM
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Ugh, we had this worked out perfectly until Ed pulled the rug out from under us at the last minute. Now we showed our hand with 24 hours left to run... be strong tomorrow, team, we can still do this!

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Fett0001
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 08:21 AM
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Quit trying to force a lynch through. We need just 1 more than them. I'll vote at 6 PM EST, and if SSBM and Menji switch we gain majority.
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jack white
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 12:38 PM
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Don't forget we also need to stop them from reaching 7 Ngamer votes. >_>
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Fett0001
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 06:49 PM
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Honestly, it may be better to go ahead and kill off NGamer, since we'll have the same case tomorrow. Throw him under the bus, and try to let them lynch merc tomorrow. If these days keep going, we can't afford all of our scum to be outed.
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Fett0001
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 07:43 PM
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You guys have 30 min to switch your vote, before I lynch Ngamer, @ 4:15 EST
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Redtooth
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 10:06 PM
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Actually, I'll hold out for now. It'd luck scummy if I jumped after everyone started point fingers. My back-up in case anyone tries to use this as evidence against me is I'll just claim Priest, unable to cast the finishing vote. Sound good yay or nay?
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Posted: Aug 6 2008, 10:18 PM
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NGamer's been lynched. Oh well...we still got this. Merc is pretty much heading straight to lynching and we got another kill at night.

...Just in case, I could claim Cop and say I got a scum read on Merc. Also, it explains why I was targeting NGamer on Day...3, I believe.
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Ngamer
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 11:42 PM
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For crap's sake Melee and Menji, why didn't you just pull your votes? I told you you would have to be active today.

Yes, we're still going to win, but there was no reason not to just strong arm them today and finish them off with the upcoming night kill.
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jack white
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 12:13 AM
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wtf guys

we've gone the whole game without getting a member lynched, we even reached the point where it's impossible for them to get a majority, and... we lose someone. :\
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Posted: Aug 7 2008, 01:21 AM
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Sorry, I had to leave unexpectedly. Oh well...this could get quite interesting.
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Fett0001
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 03:13 AM
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We'd already won.

I knew this.
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Ed Bellis
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 03:18 AM
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Congrats scum! Sorry for delaying your victory; as Fett hinted at, you guys had already won at the beginning of Day 5. I'm just an idiot.
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Ngamer
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 04:18 AM
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Yes, I did think it was a little odd to continue after we knew we could deadlock them...

Anyways, congrats everyone! A 9 kills to 1 victory, despite only having one power role and losing him the first night- now that's what I call domination!
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